Ped Gen to HHO Gen

I haven't been able to find any info yet on the net of anyone else trying this, but for a fun little experiment, I produced a small amount of gas using my ped gen powering a quickly homemade (and quite crude) hho generator and tap water only.

Something to do if anything.

Tim

[Gotwind Ben]

Hi Tim,
I'm not really up to date on this technology, a quick search gave me this on Wicki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen

Nice work, If your enjoying yourself , your doing something right :D

Is that Browns gas?
The method by which cars can be run on water but nobody wants to talk about it :-)
Saw a documentary earlier on in the year about the islands of the UK,when they were on this scottish island there were some 70's looking student types:-) had a wind turbine that used hydrogen as a storage medium instead of batteries. They also ran a car on this hydrogen but at no time did they say HOW the electricity had become a gas :-)

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Often called Browns gas as well Shawn.

It's a process of electrolysis. I was really just playing yesterday, not sure if I will pursue it much more at this time, just wanted to see if it was possible with my ped gen.

Tim

Electrolysing water makes hydrogen and oxygen, in the proportions 2H2O = O2 + 2H2

Doing that takes power (Duh!) which you can get back later as heat by burning it, or as electricity by shoving it through a fuel cell. The usual losses apply (it's about 70% efficient), the Universe won't give us something for nothing, it won't even let us break even.

The kicker when using it to power a mobile device is, I understand, the problem of carrying enough around with you to burn back to H2O and to make enough electricity to cart one's backside from A to B. I believe that some of the latest pressure vessels for hydrogen fuel-cell cars will take 800 bar, which gets round the problem of having to spend energy constantly refrigerating the hydrogen so it doesn't boil off - at that pressure, LH2 would boil at over 60 deg C. On the other hand, compressors take a hell of a lot of power in the first place.

Personally, I like the idea of STP direct methanol fuel cells, as used in the latest marks of air-independent submarines from HDW.

There is a YouTube video of a guy in the USA who has a vast amount of solar power that he runs a welding set off that produces hydrogen.
He then stores this in big tanks and either uses it to run his car or he powers his house with it with the use of a gas powered generator that's used in remote area cell towers. :shock:
But if we all did that we could probably get away with only working a 2 day week with no bills to pay other than food and TAX. ;)
I would imagine that governments wouldn't like that :(

I haven't been able to find any info yet on the net of anyone else trying this, but for a fun little experiment, I produced a small amount of gas using my ped gen powering a quickly homemade (and quite crude) hho generator and tap water only.

Something to do if anything.

Tim

Tim,

I am in the process of installing a 21 stainless steel plate 3" X 7" HHO Dry Cell on my Ford Sport Trac. My previous installation was a wet cell in a 1974 VW beetle. The VW ran well with it an it did increase the mpg significantly, but I can honestly say it did not run on HHO gas alone. My current project is a little more sophisticated as the newer truck has emission & computer controls which has to be compensated for. What electrolyte did you use? & What were you planning to use the HHO gas for?

I think ideally cabrera using a pedal gen to produce hho, boiling a 8 oz cup of water for tea or coffee in a relatively short period of time would be the ultimate goal - a "on demand" system.

It has been thought the average person can produce up to 150 watts via a ped gen, but realistically most of us are only going to pedal 30 minutes worth of that (75 watts), or even less...

I am assuming, those rated watts are an estimation into a 12v battery which presents serious voltage clamping (if you have a ped gen, then you will know what I mean)..

So if there would be a positive to producing hho via a ped gen, it is that there is no voltage clamping, very much just like riding a bike on a flat road. All of the produced energy from the ped gen motor is entering the water for electrolysis, there really is no noticeable "load" here.

It might be useful for producing small amounts of hot water in certain situations, then again, it might not.

More of just a "boredom" experiment really.

Tim